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Episode 6: Leadership and Loyalty - Titanic Syndrome with Dr Nadya Zhexembayeva in The Dov Barron Show Podcast by Dov Barron

Jan 2019

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Reinvention Is a Leadership Imperative — Not a Luxury

In this thought-provoking and emotionally charged episode, Dr. Nadya Zhexembayeva sits down with Dov Baron to explore why reinvention must become a fundamental leadership capability. Drawing on her personal journey from post-Soviet Kazakhstan and her work with global giants like Coca-Cola and IBM, Dr. Nadya unpacks the biological, political, and organizational dimensions of change—and how fear, attachment to success, and outdated systems create “Titanic Syndrome.” The conversation is a masterclass in why reinvention can no longer wait until decline.

What You’ll Learn

You’ll discover the surprising biology behind fear and resistance to change, how today’s leaders are unknowingly triggering long-term stagnation, and why reinvention must be built into your operations—not bolted on as a last resort. Dr. Nadya shares powerful metaphors, including the Titanic and the science of stress hormones, to explain why innovation alone is not enough. If you want to lead through disruption with clarity, courage, and impact, this episode is essential listening.

Who This Is For

  • CEOs and executives managing transformation
  • Change leaders in large or traditional organizations
  • Entrepreneurs looking to stay ahead of market shifts
  • Policy makers, educators, and social sector leaders navigating systemic change

3 Key Takeaways from This Episode

1. Reinvention Starts Before You Think You Need It

Waiting until you're on the decline drastically reduces your chances of success—by as much as 90%. The best time to reinvent is when things are going well. Build the muscle now, not when urgency forces your hand.

2. Fear Is a Feature, Not a Bug

Biologically, we’re wired to resist change. The first 90 seconds of fear are automatic—but what happens after is a choice. Leaders must let their teams “vent,” then redirect that energy into forward momentum. Suppressing fear backfires.

3. Titanic Syndrome Is Real—and It’s Deadly

Organizations fail not because of external icebergs but because of internal arrogance and blind trust in past success. Dr. Nadya’s Titanic metaphor shows how good intentions like “customer service” can mask the deeper dangers of outdated thinking.

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Hi, I’m Dr. Nadya Zhexembayeva

I’ve spent 20+ years helping companies like Coca-Cola, IBM, and L’Oréal reinvent in times of chaos. I’m a scientist, entrepreneur, and educator passionate about turning disruption into opportunity. I created the Reinvention Academy to teach everyday leaders how to adapt, lead, and thrive when the old rules no longer apply. If you're ready to stop fearing change and start mastering it - you're in the right place.
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